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in it, obama administration lawyers argue the government can kill americans believed to be top taliban leaders posing, quote, an imminent threat of attack against the united states. >> we have acknowledged the united states that sometimes we use remotely piloted aircraft to conduct targeted strikes against specific al qaeda terrorists to prevent attacks on the united states and to save american lives. we conduct those strikes because they're necessary to mitigate ongoing actual threats, to stop plots, prevent future attacks and save american lives. the strikes are legal, ethical an wise. >> but as expected, the memo coming under fire from civil rights activists because of how broadly imminent threat is defined. quote, the condition that an operational leader present an imminent threat of violent attack against the united states does not require the united states to have clear evidence that a specific attack on u.s. persons and interests will take place in the immediate future. now, the memo also has new details on legal case behind more drone strikes against al qaeda suspects. such as
in it, obama administration lawyers argue the government can kill americans believed to be top taliban leaders posing, quote, an imminent threat of attack against the united states. >> we have acknowledged the united states that sometimes we use remotely piloted aircraft to conduct targeted strikes against specific al qaeda terrorists to prevent attacks on the united states and to save american lives. we conduct those strikes because they're necessary to mitigate ongoing actual threats,...
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the obama administration's policy of targeting americans comes under attack on capitol hill. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> every american has the right to know when their government believes it's allowed to kill them. >> the president's pick for cia takes a grilling over the targeted killings of american citizens. >> people are reacting to a lot of falsehoods that are out there. >> reporter: tonight, the man who broke this story, michael eyes ackoff of abc news on the revelations for the brennan confirmation hearing. first it was virginia. now michigan is flirting with state-mandated vaginal probes. there's a late update on this story. i'll talk war on women with terry o'neil and actress martha plimpton. >>> senator bernie sanders has a new plan to stop corporate tax dodgers. >> corporations are people, my friend. >> the senator unveils his new bill here tonight. >>> plus, someone actually made the paul harvey farmer ad better. >>> and governor chris christie wants everyone to shut up about his weight. >> shut up. >> tonight, reverend al sharpton is here to giv
the obama administration's policy of targeting americans comes under attack on capitol hill. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> every american has the right to know when their government believes it's allowed to kill them. >> the president's pick for cia takes a grilling over the targeted killings of american citizens. >> people are reacting to a lot of falsehoods that are out there. >> reporter: tonight, the man who broke this story, michael eyes...
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some have taken issue with the obama administration's drone policy. this is a family dispute in my house. polls show most americans support it, even most liberals, even when it means killing americans who plot with al qaeda. four senators, two democrats and two republicans, working on a deal to expand background checks for gun sales. two are members of the nra. if they can strike a deal, a big part of president obama's gun safety proposals could be within reach. the movie "silver linings playbook" puts mental illness in the spotlight. we're joined by david russell, talk about the issue on the oscar history the movie could make and i think it has a shot. rick perry escalates the war with california counterpart he's not slightly a counterpart, jerry brown so much better, in the side show. this is "hardball," the place for politics. tossing and turning have given way to sleeping. where sleepless nights yield to restful sleep. and lunesta®(eszopiclone) can help you get there. like it has for so many people before. when taking lunesta, don't drive or oper
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the obama administration and the justice department has refused to acknowledge if it exists. or should i say its existence or lack thereof is classified. but the times did report on its existence back in october 2011. and they filed their lawsuit back in 2011. and members of congress have also asked the obama administration to please release this memo. we know you think it's legal. why do you think it's legal? the closest anybody ever came to getting the attorney general to admit that this memo in fact exists was this very, very awkward moment caught on tape during a routine budget hearing back in march of 2012. >> i still want to see the office of legal counsel memorandum. and i would urge you to keep working on that. i realize it's a matter of some debate within the administration. >> that would be true. >> can i say that it would be true that there is debate about the hmmm. just last month, a federal judge named colleen mcmahon ruled on the lawsuit to release this memo. so they had filed a freedom of information request. they said no. they said okay, it's no longer a reque
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not just going forward for the obama administration, but going forward, you know, 10, 15, 20 years. how will we approach these sorts of future -- hopefully they don't occur, but future benghazis and drone strikes in the future against american citizens. it's really about ten years in the future rather than five years in the past. >> steve clemons, michael lighter, and joining me now senator jay rockefeller who serves on the intelligence committee and is a former chairman of the committee. senator, you are the expert. what does the committee want to hear today from john brennan before deciding to vote whether he should be the next cia director? >> i think what we're going to hear -- i've had good talks with john brennan. i have known him for a number of years, and the fact of the matter is, you know, he himself was not aware of the intelligence and the eitc enhanced interrogation and torture stuff. there's a lot that he -- until we wrote a 6,000 page document with 23,000 foot notes. he has read the summaries of that, and he is shocked. there's a lot people don't know even though they
not just going forward for the obama administration, but going forward, you know, 10, 15, 20 years. how will we approach these sorts of future -- hopefully they don't occur, but future benghazis and drone strikes in the future against american citizens. it's really about ten years in the future rather than five years in the past. >> steve clemons, michael lighter, and joining me now senator jay rockefeller who serves on the intelligence committee and is a former chairman of the committee....
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the obama administration is targeting the country's state broadcaster and internet policing agency. economic sanctions enacted last summer have been triggered. washington hopes the moves will force iran to halt their nuclear program. >>> former lapd officer christopher dorner is wanted in connection to a double hom site. a basketball coach and her fiance were found shot to death sunday night. >>> some students at duke university says the fraternity went too far in throwing an asian themed party. people were dressed as sumo wrestlers and invitation in the party was written in broken english. members of duke's asian-american student association are protesting what they call a racist rager. >>> beginning in august, the post office will no longer deliver mail on saturdays. however, your packages will still show up in your mail box. post office locations will remain open. it's expected to save the cash strapped agency about $2 billion a year. >>> there is research out that will pinpoint the time and day of the week when a woman looks her worst. wednesday afternoon at 3:30 has been precis
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administration drone policy. this is a family dispute in my house. polls show most americans support, even most liberals if you will, even when it means killing americans who are plotting with al qaeda to kill other americans. >>> plus, four senators, two democrats and two republicans, are really working on a deal to expand at least background checks for gun sales. two of the four senators are members of the nra. if they can strike a deal, then a big part of president obama's gun safety proposals could be within reach. >>> plus, the terrific movie "silver linings playbook" puts mental illness in the spotlight tonight. we're joined by the director of that film, the great david russell, to talk about the issue and the oscar history the movie could make. i think it's got a shot. >>> texas governor rick perry escalates that war with his california counterpart -- he's not even slightly a counterpart. jerry brown is so much better. that's coming in the "sideshow" tonight. and this is "hardball" the place for politics.
administration drone policy. this is a family dispute in my house. polls show most americans support, even most liberals if you will, even when it means killing americans who are plotting with al qaeda to kill other americans. >>> plus, four senators, two democrats and two republicans, are really working on a deal to expand at least background checks for gun sales. two of the four senators are members of the nra. if they can strike a deal, then a big part of president obama's gun...
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administration during the campaign season last year. and then some various questions about benghazi, the attacks on libya last september that skilled the american ambassador. a lot of republicans feel there are still e-mails that haven't been released. >>> and now here's your first look at some of the other news going on around america. we start in florida where a 70-year-old woman lost control of her suv and plowed through a restaurant window just as it was getting ready to open. a very agile bartender inside was able to leap out of the way and sustain only minor injuries. >>> in michigan one snowplow definitely sweeps away the competition. a new toy for engineers that looks like atrailer but swings around wide enough to clear two lanes of traffic at once. it's half the price of normal plows. >>> in new york, almost 3,000 dogs and their owners are primping for the prestigious westminster dog show. a rough workout in the special doggie gym gets these pups ready to compete. after a good run these pure breds need a little bit of a break s
administration during the campaign season last year. and then some various questions about benghazi, the attacks on libya last september that skilled the american ambassador. a lot of republicans feel there are still e-mails that haven't been released. >>> and now here's your first look at some of the other news going on around america. we start in florida where a 70-year-old woman lost control of her suv and plowed through a restaurant window just as it was getting ready to open. a...
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. >> the approach that the obama administration is following is consistent with and really derived from the bush administration approach to the war on terror and i think it's entirely sensible. >> do you agree with that? lindsey graham saying totally sensible. >> we are fighting a war that's much different than the classic and traditional wars that we have fought in the past. the result of that is the methods of fighting that war and the way that americans are involved in the war are different than what they have in the past. and so, we're really in a process today of a much maturing way of handling these, of looking at them. i think there's going to be a robust discussion amongst the american people as to how we actually do that. what you're seeing with the brennan nomination hearing today is going to be the tip of the iceberg. we've been discussing this for a long time. >> yes. >> within the intelligence committee. >> and the president directed as we discussed the justice department to give congressional intelligence committee access to the classified memos and i want to play what the
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it's about the obama administration's attempt to reach a deal with religious leaders in a battle over contraceptive insurance coverage part of the president's health care reform law. >>> the "san francisco chronicle" has the story titles 49ers leading in pr fumbles, about fumbles with plays like randy moss and chris culliver. the las vegas sun has a huge headline, 20 years of penn and teller. celebrating a record run in las vegas. incredibly, teller hasn't spoken a word. think about it. ever heard him talk? nope. let's go to the economy now in a mixed week of news that ended on a high note. the dow closed above 14,000 for the first time since before the recession. steady jobs growth helped drive that rally. the economy adding 157,000 positions. that's all good. here's the bad. the country's gdp shrank during the fourth quarter. it is the first time that happened in 3 1/2 years. joining me now, msnbc contributor jared bernstein who served as vice president biden's chief economist and economic policy adviser. i don't know if you heard the tease before the break there, jared, here's the
it's about the obama administration's attempt to reach a deal with religious leaders in a battle over contraceptive insurance coverage part of the president's health care reform law. >>> the "san francisco chronicle" has the story titles 49ers leading in pr fumbles, about fumbles with plays like randy moss and chris culliver. the las vegas sun has a huge headline, 20 years of penn and teller. celebrating a record run in las vegas. incredibly, teller hasn't spoken a word....
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. >>> coming up, liberals have serious questions about the obama administration's legal justification for targeting killing of americans. the white house has responded tonight. our big panel tackles the issue, and we'll have the latest. >>> karl rove is running cover for mitch mcconnell by going after ashley judd in a new commercial? tonight we have ashley judd's response to turd blossom. >>> and a brand-new to tack on to hillary clinton from our friends across the street. it will make your jaw drop, friend. you can listen to my radio on sirius xm radio monday through friday from noon to 3:00 p.m. slayer your thoughts on facebook and on twitter. we are coming right back. toured. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for staying with us tonight. marco rubio has been picked by republicans to deliver the republican response to the president's state of the union address next tuesday. for rubio, being selected to give the speech is the only endorsement he has gotten from the republican friends lately. you can say senator rubio is the unofficial immigration czar for the republican party
. >>> coming up, liberals have serious questions about the obama administration's legal justification for targeting killing of americans. the white house has responded tonight. our big panel tackles the issue, and we'll have the latest. >>> karl rove is running cover for mitch mcconnell by going after ashley judd in a new commercial? tonight we have ashley judd's response to turd blossom. >>> and a brand-new to tack on to hillary clinton from our friends across the...
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and john brennan's policies will be about torture, about drones, about the obama administration and president obama being seen as a war hawk? >> i think senator burr was trying to say something like and get things going. republicans in some cases wasted time. instead of asking the tough questions on answers that we need to know, there was grandstanding. i know rand paul by way of example could have asked hillary clinton very tough questions about benghazi and used it for an infommercial. chuck hagel has very controversial reasons why he shouldn't be secretary of defense but yet we do too much grandstanding. i think we've wasted some time on the republican side. >> there have been really intense hearings, that's for sure. karen finney, jim warren, and brabender, thank you. >>> the president is getting ready to make his state of the union address, okay? we want to find out from you what you think the state of our union is. so we're giving you this homework assignment. we'd like to you finish this sentence. so here's mine. our state of the union is proud and ready for what is next. wha
and john brennan's policies will be about torture, about drones, about the obama administration and president obama being seen as a war hawk? >> i think senator burr was trying to say something like and get things going. republicans in some cases wasted time. instead of asking the tough questions on answers that we need to know, there was grandstanding. i know rand paul by way of example could have asked hillary clinton very tough questions about benghazi and used it for an infommercial....
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joining us now is oregon democratic senator ron wyden, who has repeatedly asked the obama administration bower drone policy. senator wyden, it's good to see you. thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me again. >> did you not in fact get what you had asked the president to give you and that you thought you would be getting this morning based on your conversation with the president last night? >> rachel, it's not clear. the fact is, and i went in first thing this morning, i was able to read some information that was helpful. i'm just not convinced yet that it is the full legal analysis that we need to do to do vigorous oversight. what today was really about is of course it was a nomination hearing for john brennan. but it ultimately was a question of upholding our system of checks and balances in government. and i think that system is out of whack these days and we've got to do some more for transparency and accountability in getting those checks and balances back. >> in terms of this specific program that you've been asking about the legal advice for, specifically targeting
joining us now is oregon democratic senator ron wyden, who has repeatedly asked the obama administration bower drone policy. senator wyden, it's good to see you. thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me again. >> did you not in fact get what you had asked the president to give you and that you thought you would be getting this morning based on your conversation with the president last night? >> rachel, it's not clear. the fact is, and i went in first thing this...
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the obama administration quite austen tash shusly presented it. even after the troops come home from afghan starngs we will still be a nation of wafrmt in 1832, carl wrote war is an act of force. it's freely operating and obedient to no law but their own. much in the last century, particularly after the horror of the second war was an attempt to prove clausewitz was wrong. i say we choose the lauchlt we'll sew you right after this. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. when the doctor told me that i could smoke for the first week... i'm like...yeah, ok..
the obama administration quite austen tash shusly presented it. even after the troops come home from afghan starngs we will still be a nation of wafrmt in 1832, carl wrote war is an act of force. it's freely operating and obedient to no law but their own. much in the last century, particularly after the horror of the second war was an attempt to prove clausewitz was wrong. i say we choose the lauchlt we'll sew you right after this. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute...
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. >>> the obama administration's decision to give congress previously classified counter terrorism documents followed days of pressure from lawmakers demanding more transparency. john brennan himself called for clarity in a speech in 2009. >> i have been deeply troubled by the inflammatory rhetoric and hyperbole that is often characterizing the debate over the security policies. particularly those relating to the fight against terrorists. as we move ahead, the president feels strongly we maintain a robust dialogue with the american people, indeed with the world about the full range of efforts to prevent terrorist attacks. >> the new mexico senator tom udahl is one of seven senators that signed a letter that led to the classified legal opinions release. he joins me now. senator, good morning to you. >> good morning. good to be with you this morning. >> apologies. we are late. the president was late in his speech at the prayer breakfast. let me start with the administration's decision. is this a no? >> i think this is encouraging to release the documents to the committees. i want to be sure th
. >>> the obama administration's decision to give congress previously classified counter terrorism documents followed days of pressure from lawmakers demanding more transparency. john brennan himself called for clarity in a speech in 2009. >> i have been deeply troubled by the inflammatory rhetoric and hyperbole that is often characterizing the debate over the security policies. particularly those relating to the fight against terrorists. as we move ahead, the president feels...
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a day ahead of john brennan's confirmation hearing to head the cia, the obama administration's drone program is drawing new scrutiny from both sides of the aisle and raising big questions about just how far the government should go in targeted assassinations without oversight from congress or from the courts. joining me now for our daily fix, msnbc contributor and "usa today" washington bureau chief. chris, first to you, i don't think there is any big question so far as to whether or not john brennan is going to be confirmed at least going into the hearing, but this is a real debate now. because of michael isikoff breaking the story and finding that white paper, and discovering that the justice department had at least september that much to the hill, some members, the 11 senators and at least three the committee asking big questions about why there isn't more oversight. >> what's fascinating is when they announced the trio of nominations, john kerry at state, chuck hagel at defense and john brennan for cia, i remember being on the show and saying i think hagel will be the most contro
a day ahead of john brennan's confirmation hearing to head the cia, the obama administration's drone program is drawing new scrutiny from both sides of the aisle and raising big questions about just how far the government should go in targeted assassinations without oversight from congress or from the courts. joining me now for our daily fix, msnbc contributor and "usa today" washington bureau chief. chris, first to you, i don't think there is any big question so far as to whether or...
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a major reversal for the obama administration. the white house will brief lawmakers about drones. the administration will release classified documents about the legal justification for using drone strikes to kill american citizens. >> this is an encouraging first step, and especially because it comes at a time when the lines have blurred between the military and the intelligence field, and it's going to be so important to do robust congressional oversight in order to protect both our security and our liberty. >> senator widen is one of the senators who was pushing for the release of more noftion and it comes just hours before the confirmation hearing for john brennan. the white house counterterrorism adviser was the architect of the president's drone policy and one of its biggest defenders. >> it's this surgical precision, the ability with laser-like focus to eliminate the cancerous tumor called an al qaeda terrorist. >> i want to bring in "the washington post's" political reporter nia-malika henderson and politico's white house reporter carrie brown. good morning. >> good morning
a major reversal for the obama administration. the white house will brief lawmakers about drones. the administration will release classified documents about the legal justification for using drone strikes to kill american citizens. >> this is an encouraging first step, and especially because it comes at a time when the lines have blurred between the military and the intelligence field, and it's going to be so important to do robust congressional oversight in order to protect both our...
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a washington post abc news poll this month found 83% of americans approved of the obama administration's drone policy. the 11% opposed perhaps ad hereins of the old ben franklin adage that those who give up their liberty for more security metro deserve liberty nor security. hannah, i want to go to you first on this given all the work that you've done in and around the issue of drones. the administration laid out three criteria for the killing of u.s. sit sfwlenz. one, that the target be a ranking al qaeda figure. who, the target pose an imminent threat of violent attack against the u.s., and, three, that the targets capture is not feasible. all of those seem like terms that are open to pretty broad interpretation. >> that's exactly right, alex. i think one of the things that is most troubling and remarkable about this memo are that what appear to be restrictions on the first page of the memo become permissions by the end of it when you start reading how they're defined. take imindependence, for example. the administration says that it can only target people who are an imminent threat, bu
a washington post abc news poll this month found 83% of americans approved of the obama administration's drone policy. the 11% opposed perhaps ad hereins of the old ben franklin adage that those who give up their liberty for more security metro deserve liberty nor security. hannah, i want to go to you first on this given all the work that you've done in and around the issue of drones. the administration laid out three criteria for the killing of u.s. sit sfwlenz. one, that the target be a...
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legal reasoning for why the administration believes president obama has the power to order the killing of americans in counterterrorism strikes around the world. look at this. ever since anybody knew such a document existed, this is how the administration has been coping with requests to see this document. this is a letter from the justice department telling the aclu that they neither confirm nor deny the existence of the documents described in your request. quote, the fact -- excuse me -- the very fact of the existence or nonexistence of such diagnostics is itself classified. that's what they've been saying for more than a year. but now as of tonight, the administration admitted that that legal reasoning memo exists. the associated press first breaking the news late tonight. nbc news confirming it. the president has directed the justice department to give the memo to the intelligence committees in congress. it is the first time that this will have been seen outside the administration itself. now, the administration has openly in speeches and in public comments asserted that it believe
legal reasoning for why the administration believes president obama has the power to order the killing of americans in counterterrorism strikes around the world. look at this. ever since anybody knew such a document existed, this is how the administration has been coping with requests to see this document. this is a letter from the justice department telling the aclu that they neither confirm nor deny the existence of the documents described in your request. quote, the fact -- excuse me -- the...
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and you look at this memo, which is an obama administration memo. first of all, you read it in its entirety. people can go on dotcom. it's really hard to see anything there that's -- that relates to operational security. it's not classified. it's purely legal arguments. so why has it taken until now for us to get a copy of it and let the public read it? >> we know for sure the memo was written by the justice department. we assume inside the olc, the office of legal counsel. that's what we believe. >> the sequence of events, as i understand them is this. members of congress, pat leahy, others, were demanding to see the olc memos on targeted killing of americans. >> jane harman who was in the house intelligence committee saying she was stunned more hadn't been demanding this. say they'd asked during the bush years for olc memos. >> democrats were not nearly as loud on this subject as they were during the bush years, but they were asking for them. and so what the justice department did was say, okay, we're not going to give you the olc memos because we
and you look at this memo, which is an obama administration memo. first of all, you read it in its entirety. people can go on dotcom. it's really hard to see anything there that's -- that relates to operational security. it's not classified. it's purely legal arguments. so why has it taken until now for us to get a copy of it and let the public read it? >> we know for sure the memo was written by the justice department. we assume inside the olc, the office of legal counsel. that's what we...
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members of congress demanding more details into how the administration justifies the targeted killing of american citizens. the white house says president obama has directed the department of justice to brief members of the intelligence committees. the move comes after five groups of 11 senators led by ron widen of oregon demanded insight into the government's legal rational for drone strikes against americans abroad. senator widen took his frustrations to twitter writing, every american has the right to know when their government believes it is allowed to kill them. very strong words. this, of course, follows a leaked white house memo obtained by nbc news this week detailing the criteria required for such a strike. the white house yesterday found itself under quite a bit of pressure ahead to have day's sthat confirmation hearings for john brennan, of course, nominated to be the next head of the cia. >> why you are dancing around the question of whether or not we kill civilians? why can't the government -- >> i don't think that i'm dancing around it. i didn't dispute it. >> not necess
members of congress demanding more details into how the administration justifies the targeted killing of american citizens. the white house says president obama has directed the department of justice to brief members of the intelligence committees. the move comes after five groups of 11 senators led by ron widen of oregon demanded insight into the government's legal rational for drone strikes against americans abroad. senator widen took his frustrations to twitter writing, every american has...
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bush and any way to adjudicate the possibilities of what war means to the obama administration? >> well, i think that, i think that is absolutely right, it has been a continuation of the bush administration policies, and yes, administrations always try to push the outer bounds of the authority. but one thank is clear is that the laws of war have not changed even if the practice has changed. there are really three reasons that a country can, a state can use force outside of its borders. one, if it is the victim of an armed attack and second if the u.n. security council authorizes it, and three, assisting a state that requests it, and we have stretched that boundary as well far beyond what the laws of war call for. so i think that there is a very serious question about this question of perpetual war, but we should remember historically in the 20th century, the u.s. was at war virtually every decade of the 20th century, so if we think of ourselves as peaceful country that does not engage in war, we need to rethink that. >> that is right. david, i want to ask this question, because
bush and any way to adjudicate the possibilities of what war means to the obama administration? >> well, i think that, i think that is absolutely right, it has been a continuation of the bush administration policies, and yes, administrations always try to push the outer bounds of the authority. but one thank is clear is that the laws of war have not changed even if the practice has changed. there are really three reasons that a country can, a state can use force outside of its borders....
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the memo outlines the obama administration's justification for the targeted killing of american citizens overseas by drone strikes if those citizens are considered to be high-level al qaeda operatives plotting against the united states. progressives want answers. tonight an administration official tells nbc news that president obama has directed the justice department to provide congressional intelligence committees access to classified information providing the legal rationale for these drone strikes. this comes after the white house faced a second day of questioning on the subject. spokesman jay carney says president obama is not troubled by the memo being made public. >> he thinks that it is legitimate to ask questions about how we prosecute the war against al qaeda. >> senator ron wyden, a member of the senate intelligence committee, has been a critic of the drone program for years. every american has the right to know when their government believes it is allowed to kill them. he tells nbc news, "the memo doesn't answer the central questions. when does the government have the legal r
the memo outlines the obama administration's justification for the targeted killing of american citizens overseas by drone strikes if those citizens are considered to be high-level al qaeda operatives plotting against the united states. progressives want answers. tonight an administration official tells nbc news that president obama has directed the justice department to provide congressional intelligence committees access to classified information providing the legal rationale for these drone...
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the obama administration saying this is an indication that spending cuts, what republicans calling for, don't necessarily work. the thing that is sort of looming over this mixed bag, this economy picture that we got this week, are, of course, these fiscal fights coming up on the horizon. republicans and democrats will have to deal with that. first up, the sequester which could potentially work in deeper spending cuts to defense spending, nondiscretionary spending. that's something that the white house, that congress will really have to deal with, and that's sort of first up on the list of fiscal fights in a series of them, alex, on the horizon. >> kristen welker, thank you for that. we'll see you in the best of office politics in a half an hour. >>> later on, new campaign for immigration reform. a new report suggests it may not be much of a help for the republican party which lost the hispanic vote in historic numbers in november. the story in 30 minutes or so. >>> also new this morning, new details about the man allegedly behind the deadly terror attack in turkey. suicide bomber repor
the obama administration saying this is an indication that spending cuts, what republicans calling for, don't necessarily work. the thing that is sort of looming over this mixed bag, this economy picture that we got this week, are, of course, these fiscal fights coming up on the horizon. republicans and democrats will have to deal with that. first up, the sequester which could potentially work in deeper spending cuts to defense spending, nondiscretionary spending. that's something that the...
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it's very clear that one of the promises that the obama administration made when they came in is they would take the obama policies and run them through a filter where they would legitimatize them, they would add protections that would enhance civil liberties. they've let these programs continue in nontransparent ways. they've done little to establish rationale regulations of them, very clear rules that would make us feel better that they were doing a better job of taking this tremendous power that they have and using it in the most responsible way. >> well, i think one of the things that was really remarkable on the hearing yesterday, howard, was the gray -- the sort of opacity, and the fact that john brennan himself didn't know if he would call waterboarding torture. >> i think he did know. i didn't think he was going to say. >> they very much are still grappling. the playbook is still being written. so it's sort of -- the ethics around it are still -- we're still sort of thinking about it, and in the meantime drone strikes continue today. there was a drone strike in pakistan that k
it's very clear that one of the promises that the obama administration made when they came in is they would take the obama policies and run them through a filter where they would legitimatize them, they would add protections that would enhance civil liberties. they've let these programs continue in nontransparent ways. they've done little to establish rationale regulations of them, very clear rules that would make us feel better that they were doing a better job of taking this tremendous power...
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the obama administration's shadow program of targeted killings got exposure this week right her. michael isikoff reporting the story here on msnbc. isikoff obtained the government document that lays out the legal arguments to justify the use of drones to kill al qaeda suspects including at times american citizens. i want to go ahead and take a reality check now and the government's the mostly secret drone program until now. joining me now, vicki duval, former general council on intelligence committee and former deputy legal adviser to the cia's counterterrorism center and kevin williamson, deputy manager of the national review. thanks so much for both of you being here. reality check here. >> polls show most americans have very little problem using drones against citizens turned terrorists. here it is right here. 79% of people approve using drones against americans overseas who are suspected of plotting terrorist attacks. what does this is a about us, kevin? >> well, it says that voters aren't to be trusted, but we knew that already. you can put the word terrorist in front of any
the obama administration's shadow program of targeted killings got exposure this week right her. michael isikoff reporting the story here on msnbc. isikoff obtained the government document that lays out the legal arguments to justify the use of drones to kill al qaeda suspects including at times american citizens. i want to go ahead and take a reality check now and the government's the mostly secret drone program until now. joining me now, vicki duval, former general council on intelligence...
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. ♪ >>> coming up, liberals have serious questions about the obama administration's legal justification for targeting killing of americans. the white house has responded tonight. our big panel tackles the issue, and we'll have the latest. >>> karl rove is running cover for mitch mcconnell by going after ashley judd in a new commercial? tonight we have ashley judd's response to turd blossom. >>> and a brand-new to tack on to hillary clinton from our friends across the street. it will make your jaw drop, friend. you can listen to my radio on sirius xm radio monday through friday from noon to 3:00 p.m. slayer your thoughts on facebook and on twitter. we are coming right back. and only at officemax stores! ♪ ♪ i want candy ♪ ♪ i want candy ♪ but that doesn't mean i don't want to make money.stor. i love making money. i try to be smart with my investments. i also try to keep my costs down. what's your plan? ishares. low cost and tax efficient. find out why nine out of ten large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prosp
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but if he is to run the cia for president obama, john brennan is first going to have to face questions on thursday about some of what michael isikoff turned up here on this program last night. a justice department white paper elaborating the administration's reasoning for why it thinks it is legal to kill american citizens on the president's say so. or actually, on the say so of an informed high level official of the u.s. government. so maybe that's the president, but maybe that's somebody else. michael isikoff's scoop ended up at "the new york times" today and "the washington post" and "the hill" and slate and salon and ap to name a few. it was everywhere. and then at a press conference today, the attorney general was asked about it. >> last night nbc reported a white paper that was prepared by the justice department undated, unsigned about the legal -- the legal pinnacles for targeting americans overseas. could you please give us what the precise definition is and how that would be carried out? >> well, there have been a series of speeches that i gave, jay johnson gave, john brennan
but if he is to run the cia for president obama, john brennan is first going to have to face questions on thursday about some of what michael isikoff turned up here on this program last night. a justice department white paper elaborating the administration's reasoning for why it thinks it is legal to kill american citizens on the president's say so. or actually, on the say so of an informed high level official of the u.s. government. so maybe that's the president, but maybe that's somebody...
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john brennan the architect of the obama administration's drone program strongly defended their use saying strikes only take place to prevent terror threats, not as punishment for them. >> i think there's a misimpression on the part of some of the american people who believe that we take strikes to punish terrorists for past transgressi transgressions. nothing could be further from the truth. we only take such actions as a last resort to save lives when there's no other alternative to taking an action that's going to mitigate that threat. >> democratic senator ron widen, when has demanded more insight to the legal justification, pressed brennan on the issue. >> you believe that the president should provide an individual american with the opportunity to surrender before killing them? >> any american who joins al qaeda will know full well that they have joined an organization that is at war with the united states and that has killed thousands upon thousands of individuals, many, many of them who are americans. so i think any american who did that should know well that they, in fact, are part
john brennan the architect of the obama administration's drone program strongly defended their use saying strikes only take place to prevent terror threats, not as punishment for them. >> i think there's a misimpression on the part of some of the american people who believe that we take strikes to punish terrorists for past transgressi transgressions. nothing could be further from the truth. we only take such actions as a last resort to save lives when there's no other alternative to...
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he said it was a good first step in terms of moving toward more transparency from the obama administration regarding the drone program. you agree with that assessment? was it enough or is more needed to be done? >> well, i think obviously it's a very important issue we have to it continue to discuss, and i wanted to start with the idea that yesterday's hearing was pretty remarkable. it's a great country that can have an issue of that delicacy with lots of different points of view aired in public with senators of different points of view asking questions. i thought john brennan did a good job. he was very straightforward. i got the feeling he was giving us the answers that were what he really thought and believed. he wasn't playing games with words so, yeah, i think there's going to be a lot of work. i mean, this is a new technique of warfare. and it's something that we have to try to figure out how do we do it judiciously? the other thing we have to think about is we're not going to be the only people on the planet that have this technology indefinitely and what we're doing now, in a sense
he said it was a good first step in terms of moving toward more transparency from the obama administration regarding the drone program. you agree with that assessment? was it enough or is more needed to be done? >> well, i think obviously it's a very important issue we have to it continue to discuss, and i wanted to start with the idea that yesterday's hearing was pretty remarkable. it's a great country that can have an issue of that delicacy with lots of different points of view aired in...
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administration drone policy. this is a family dispute in my house. polls show most americans support, even most liberals if you will, even when it means killing americans who are plotting with al qaeda to kill other americans. >>> plus, four senators, two democrats and two republicans, are really working on a deal to expand at least background checks for gun sales. two of the four senators are members of the nra. if they can strike a deal, then a big part of president obama's gun safety proposals could be within reach. >>> plus, the terrific movie "silver linings playbook" puts mental illness in the spotlight tonight. we're joined by the director of that film, the great david russell, to talk about the issue and the oscar history the movie could make. i think it's got a shot. >>> texas governor rick perry escalates that war with his california counterpart -- he's not even slightly a counterpart. jerry brown is so much better. that's coming in the "sideshow" tonight. and this is "hardball" the place for politics.
administration drone policy. this is a family dispute in my house. polls show most americans support, even most liberals if you will, even when it means killing americans who are plotting with al qaeda to kill other americans. >>> plus, four senators, two democrats and two republicans, are really working on a deal to expand at least background checks for gun sales. two of the four senators are members of the nra. if they can strike a deal, then a big part of president obama's gun...
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it's an administration that there's been plenty of grumbling about that president obama has not spent muff time courting them, that he doesn't care about them. he was very briefly a member of congress and it's not a priority. i think some of that just goes with the territory. that theenz democrats too as well as republicans. >> chris, kelly, thank you both very much. >>> immigration reform, joining me now, one of the lawmakers who took part in today's congressional hearings, the house hearings on immigration policy. ru ease gutierrez, thank you very much. this was sort of the opening act on the house side. we've seen a big shift on republicans -- in republicans and a lot of action coming from the senate. what are you seeing on the house side? >> well, here's what i'm seeing on the house side. here we have the judiciary committee, and it's first hearing on the full committee. what are we discussing? immigration. some would say, well, the kind of focussing on the high skilled industry and the need for more. that's good. i support more visas. part of comprehensive immigration reform is m
it's an administration that there's been plenty of grumbling about that president obama has not spent muff time courting them, that he doesn't care about them. he was very briefly a member of congress and it's not a priority. i think some of that just goes with the territory. that theenz democrats too as well as republicans. >> chris, kelly, thank you both very much. >>> immigration reform, joining me now, one of the lawmakers who took part in today's congressional hearings, the...
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we're going to have new administrations, and obama has kind of solidified what bush and cheney put into place and that's going to be in the hands of other administrations in the future, and david is right. there are no checks on this. if this is so ethical, it's so wise, and it's so legal, then why don't you be honest and open about it and tell congress what you're doing so at least they can do it even if you're going to keep the people in the dark. >> thank you, gentlemen. >>> coming up, at least some members of congress are looking for bipartisan solutions on gun safety. yes, they are. stay with us. [ woman ] if you have the audacity to believe your financial advisor should focus on your long-term goals, not their short-term agenda. [ male announcer ] join the nearly 7 million investors who think like you do. face time and think time make a difference. at edward jones, it's how we make sense of investing. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan.
we're going to have new administrations, and obama has kind of solidified what bush and cheney put into place and that's going to be in the hands of other administrations in the future, and david is right. there are no checks on this. if this is so ethical, it's so wise, and it's so legal, then why don't you be honest and open about it and tell congress what you're doing so at least they can do it even if you're going to keep the people in the dark. >> thank you, gentlemen. >>>...
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>> well, there was an interesting statistic in the first year of the obama administration. i think -- or perhaps over the first couple of years in the administration. he authorized more drone strikes and more people were killed in drone strikes that he authorized than the total number of people that had before passed through guantanamo bay. that crystallizes that hypocrisy people talk about. >> you could also argue that we know drone strikes work. you know, the jury still seems like it's out with regard to harsh interrogation methods, but drone strikes work. >> in terms of the morality, you know, if you determine that there are threats out there, there are bad guys that you need to take off the battlefield but you can't go there, you can't go to pakistan, you can't go to certain places, then what alternative do you have if you can't capture them? in other words, once you have detained suspected terrorists, there are all sorts of international laws, the laws of war, the geneva conventions that say you can't touch the person, you can't, you know, punch the person in the nose
>> well, there was an interesting statistic in the first year of the obama administration. i think -- or perhaps over the first couple of years in the administration. he authorized more drone strikes and more people were killed in drone strikes that he authorized than the total number of people that had before passed through guantanamo bay. that crystallizes that hypocrisy people talk about. >> you could also argue that we know drone strikes work. you know, the jury still seems like...
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now a bipartisan group of 11 senators has written to president obama asking him to release about what is still secret about why the president and the administration think it is legal to kill americans this way. quote, it is vitally for congress and the american public to have a full understanding of how the executive branch interprets the limits and bound relatives this authority so that congress and the public can decide whether this authority has been properly defined and whether the president's power to deliberately kill american citizens is subject to appropriate limitations and safeguards. honestly, in the real world, particularly in the real political world, there is some compunction, but very little compunction about the president using extreme counterterrorism measures. the president using lethal force against bad guys. in the case against the american whose killing seems to have inspired a lot of the secret legal reasoning, the case against anwar al awlaki doesn't seem to tug at the heart strings. adds a senior recruiter for al qaeda he was associated with the mass shooting a
now a bipartisan group of 11 senators has written to president obama asking him to release about what is still secret about why the president and the administration think it is legal to kill americans this way. quote, it is vitally for congress and the american public to have a full understanding of how the executive branch interprets the limits and bound relatives this authority so that congress and the public can decide whether this authority has been properly defined and whether the...
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the obama administration now breaking years of secrecy and handing over a confidential 16-page memo that justifies the targeting killing of u.s. citizens abroad suspected of being terrorists. this decision to release the document came hours before brennan was to face a serious grilling by lawmakers outraged over the program. the biggest critic, democratic senator ron wyden who says the president has been stonewalling congress for years and suggested blocking brennan's nomination. president obama called wyden specifically last night. >> clearly, the president's call to senator wyden so unusual and trying to ward off what could be a calamitous hearing today. >> what standard will barack obama be held to after the pictures of the little children who were killed by his cone drone attacks are placed before the jury in the hague? >> i was encouraged last night when the president called and he said as part of this effort, he is going to try to drive a more extensive discussion about these issues. every american has the right to know when their government believes it's allowed to kill them. i do
the obama administration now breaking years of secrecy and handing over a confidential 16-page memo that justifies the targeting killing of u.s. citizens abroad suspected of being terrorists. this decision to release the document came hours before brennan was to face a serious grilling by lawmakers outraged over the program. the biggest critic, democratic senator ron wyden who says the president has been stonewalling congress for years and suggested blocking brennan's nomination. president...
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. >> i want to quickly run with you with the big story this week, the obama administration's drone program in which we learned some new details about it and the leaked justice department memo and john brennan's confirmation hearings. the big question is the killing of american citizens. do you believe, snork snorks that those strikes are warranted? >> well, i don't have the details and information necessary to make that judgment. but i do believe that it's a threshold that we have to be very, very careful about, alex. this sets a dangerous precedent going forward. we've always been a country of the rule of law. and the rule of law has constitutional elements to it that are guaranteed all citizens. and so i'm concerned about it. i think we have to give it very careful thought and really question whether this is something we ought to do in a permanent way. security is important. but so are the constitutional rights afforded every american. >> well, senator tom daschell, many thanks for your time. good luck with the book. i hope itfares well with students across the country. thank you. >> my
. >> i want to quickly run with you with the big story this week, the obama administration's drone program in which we learned some new details about it and the leaked justice department memo and john brennan's confirmation hearings. the big question is the killing of american citizens. do you believe, snork snorks that those strikes are warranted? >> well, i don't have the details and information necessary to make that judgment. but i do believe that it's a threshold that we have...